Blown out knee


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By pookey - 4/15/2014 5:32:03 PM
Not a good day at the Theravet. She thinks Ginger might of torn her right cranial cruciate ligament and possibly her meniscus as well. I have to go see a surgeon in Rochester at the end of the month. It is looking to be between 2000 to 5000 to fix her knee. And no hunt test or hunting this year. I am not happy.
By Swamper - 4/16/2014 11:42:03 AM
bummer pookey.  sorry to hear that.
By ducker - 4/16/2014 4:32:58 PM
That stink Pook.

hope it all works out for you both.
By pookey - 4/16/2014 5:05:58 PM
Thanks guys. The vet said she should be better then she was after the repair. We talked about plating and pins instead of the wire. Tippie had the wire and he was never the same and had a hard time moving his leg. Ginger was limping very bad after the vet visit yesterday, I had to give her some meds. She is doing better today with rest. I am not ready to retire her so I will spend what ever it takes to fix her. I have to see what the next move is x rays and maybe scope of the knee. The vet thinks she is a partial torn ligament and maybe damage to joint because Ginger's knee is popping when you lift her left and bend it. She is using it but little as possible.
By pookey - 4/25/2014 11:01:03 AM
Took Ginger to see the top surgeon in Rochester on dog knee repairs today and he confirmed she tore her ACL. We discussed options and I am going with a TTA/TPLO surgery which is plate and pin. He said this repair will being her back to 95%. The good news is she will be up and running in 6 to 8 weeks maybe hit the last NAHRA hunt test this year and will be able to hunt this year for sure. They are doing surgery next Wednesday and I can pick her up on Thursday. Surgery price 3400.00 to 4100.00. I will be so glad when she is fixed and back to normal.   
By talley2191 - 4/26/2014 6:41:17 AM
pookey (4/25/2014)
Took Ginger to see the top surgeon in Rochester on dog knee repairs today and he confirmed she tore her ACL. We discussed options and I am going with a TTA/TPLO surgery which is plate and pin. He said this repair will being her back to 95%. The good news is she will be up and running in 6 to 8 weeks maybe hit the last NAHRA hunt test this year and will be able to hunt this year for sure. They are doing surgery next Wednesday and I can pick her up on Thursday. Surgery price 3400.00 to 4100.00. I will be so glad when she is fixed and back to normal.   


Had the procedure done on one of mine a few years back, and it has become quite a common procedure. I think 6-8 weeks "up and running" is naively optimistic. They should be taking X-rays confirming the bone is healed at 3 months, then you have muscle atrophy to rehab. Remember the intersection of the upper and lower leg bone of a dog is about 25 degrees. This causes the upper leg bone to slide on top of the lower leg bone when the knee ligament is torn. This surgery removes the ligament and utilizes a change in degree of intersection of the two bones to create stability. This is done by cutting through the bone, rotating it to the desired angle and utilizing screws, plates to secure the angle. The bone must then heal, and the muscle in the leg must be rehabilitated. I'm not trying to be a downer, but i'll go further than my previous comment that it is naively optimistic should you have been told your dog will be up and running in 6 weeks, and say that's dead wrong. I would say a 4-month window is more realistic. In full disclosure, I had my dog's procedure performed at www.vosm.com, which is regarded as the leader in veternary orthopedic and spinal surgeries in the country.

Good  luck. 
By pookey - 4/27/2014 7:12:58 AM
Hey Talley, Yeah I didn't believe the 2 month thing after I seen videos on You Tube about the TTA surgery. I am figuring at least 12 weeks until she is released to full activity. I will be having Thera Vet Acres Rehabilitation & Fitness in Webster help with building muscle in her legs and some electro therapy for any pain she may have if need. She will be on 75 mg of Novox for pain 2 times a day so that should help a lot with the pain. Yes he did say something about coming back for x rays before releasing her to full activity. As long as she is fix, I am good with how ever long it takes to heal up.
By tallman2 - 4/29/2014 12:26:32 PM
My 6 year old had TPLO and was starting to run at 4 months....
By pookey - 4/30/2014 4:37:21 PM
Ginger had her surgery today. It went well and she was awake and doing good as of 300 pm. I thought they was doing a TTA on her and the lady said no they were doing the TPLO. I got to go pick her up tomorrow afternoon. I am glad she is fixed and it will be a long 12 weeks but it is worth it. Thanks Guys.
By talley2191 - 4/30/2014 7:02:23 PM
Good choice and take it slow and you'll build her back stronger than before. Just have to make sure you rehab properly. As I am sure you were told, 50% of dogs blow the other side within a year. Good rehab will give her confidence in that limb and she won't become overly used to compensating with the non surgical leg. 
By ducker - 5/3/2014 6:30:50 AM
Slow and easy now Pookie. Luckily you have another dog to play with while Ginger heals. Goog luck at NAHRA next month. Probably see you there.
By pookey - 5/3/2014 8:15:33 AM
Thanks Guys. Ducker yeah I am stoked to run Sadie for her Regional cant wait. We have been discussing running some AKC with her. We will see, up to Ed on that. I found out from Ginger doctor, she tore the cranial cruciate ligament completely and had a medial meniscal tear which he repaired. My puppies leg was in a bad way, more then what we thought. Well she is home now and on the mend. She was giving me the cold shoulder for a day because i dropped her off at the vets but yesterday she was wagging her tail and today she has her happy face on now dad is fussing over her. Thanks again
By pookey - 7/2/2014 7:40:48 PM
Update on Ginger. Her 6 week x-rays showed the bone healed up every thing looked great except the arthritic she has now. The vet warned me there would be some. I had her in rehab up to her Vet appt. She is now exercising at home, training short retrieves in the lawn, blind work and swimming in the lake for retrieves. I still have her on Dasuquin with MSM for her joints. She is using the leg well no limping. I am looking into running her at the hunt test coming up in Alabama, NY at the end of July and first part in August at Baldwinsville. Ginger is a much happier doggy now her leg is fixed.
By ducker - 7/3/2014 5:41:54 AM
Great news Pookey.
Look forward to seeing you and Ginger in action later this summer.
By Swamper - 7/7/2014 2:25:12 PM
good news pookey.  glad she healed up well.  enjoy!
By ducker - 8/10/2014 11:32:31 AM
Hey Pookey,
Great to see you and Ginger back in action at the NAHRA test on Saturday.