Is it necessary to stop all retrieves while FF?


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By MiBoyTank - 7/11/2013 8:40:26 PM
While FF should you stop all retrieves?  No fun bumpers etc.? And why is it beneficial? 
By ESutter - 7/11/2013 8:52:55 PM
Disclaimer: I'm no pro...but I did FF my dog by myself to some pretty great success.

It's definitely not "necessary" to stop all retrieves, but it is beneficial. To be completely honest, I didn't stop all retrieves, but I cut it down to something like 2 or 3 fun bumpers every other week.

In my understanding, cutting retrieves is beneficial because it cuts down on the opportunities for a dog to do it "wrong." Each retrieve that the pup bobbles, drops, or refuses the bumper is a chance for it to learn negative behaviors. Once you get the whole way through FF the pup should have a much better grip on how you would like it to handle the retrieves, and if it doesn't respond the way you desire, you have a tool to respond with.
By browndogbillf - 8/5/2013 6:56:26 PM
Most trainers say no retrieves intel ff is done. 
By Mark B - 8/9/2013 11:10:23 PM
Everyone I work with and most everything I read states that when FF stop the marking drills. Something to keep in mind is that FF is a transitional period for you and your dog in that it develops and establishes your role as the boss. Ff along with OB work creates the foundation for a steady obedient hunting partner.